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Re: FA Charges

Post by Yeltz27 » 26 Jan 2017, 10:20

I don't really understand the charges. Can somebody explain them and why they are potentially so serious please

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Re: FA Charges

Post by Poll » 26 Jan 2017, 11:10

Yeltz27 wrote:I don't really understand the charges. Can somebody explain them and why they are potentially so serious please
I'm not a lawyer, so clearly just making this up, but Doc's original summary seems sensible...
YeltzDoc wrote:I don't know what this means, other than I assume it's something to do with Steve's involvement with Eastwood.
Also there seems to be a charge about loan players and one about financial reporting.
To me, this charge is the most worrying:
YeltzDoc wrote:2. Six breaches of FA Rule E1 (e) – alleged breaches in relation to participation in competitions when Steven Lynch or his associate was ‘interested’ in the club as well as a second club without prior written consent.
The charges seem to me pretty serious breaking of FA rules, especially the part of having interests in 2 clubs at the same time. As we've experienced before, breaking competition rules can mean severe penalties, like being banned from future competitions for multiple seasons, and I can imagine even worse punishments depending on the severity of the crime.

I guess we won't know what the outcome is until after the hearings, but the precedent doesn't fill me with confidence.

Hopefully I'm completely wrong and it's all been a simple misunderstanding ::)

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Re: FA Charges

Post by HalesowenHarry » 26 Jan 2017, 11:16

Just to clarify it's nothing at all to do with Loan PLAYERS but more a loan of money within the club

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Re: FA Charges

Post by Noggin » 26 Jan 2017, 11:23

Yeltz27 wrote:I don't really understand the charges. Can somebody explain them and why they are potentially so serious please
The one that I read as being the most serious is this one
Six breaches of FA Rule E1 (e) – alleged breaches in relation to participation in competitions when Steven Lynch or his associate was ‘interested’ in the club as well as a second club without prior written consent.
which I read as being involvement with more than one club at the same time.

The critical thing is whether the charges above are against Steve personally or against the football club. if against the football club I would guess that financial punishment is unlikely because there is no point in fining a club without money, so the only sanctions are playing bans of various severity

Even if the charges above are made against Steve personally rather than the football club, then one of the other aspects could be just as troubling
Breach of FA Rule E1 (f) – it is alleged that the club, having given signed undertakings to The FA, breached those requirements in that it failed to disclose that Steven Lynch remained ‘interested’ in the club.
. My guess is that the same point about financial penalty vs playing penalty would also apply.

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Re: FA Charges

Post by Yeltz27 » 26 Jan 2017, 11:44

Thanks for doing that!

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Re: FA Charges

Post by ZeeZee » 26 Jan 2017, 12:01

Yeltz27 wrote:I don't really understand the charges. Can somebody explain them and why they are potentially so serious please
I genuinely believe the majority of supporters do not realise the potential severity of these charges. Despite the fact that some of us knew this had the potential to rear its head again and bite us squarely on the ass, it still p**ses me off that all the hard work of many to defeat previous evil is very likely to be thrown down the drain.

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Re: FA Charges

Post by Washy002 » 26 Jan 2017, 12:13

The FA usual punish the club and not the owner as that is where they are only leagly allowed to punish.

Having worked for Leicester FA my best educated guess is:

Club
Ban from FA cup competitions
10 points reduction

Steve
Ban from football (which means he can't own halesowen town but will probably move the ownership to a friend/relative which would be allowed, assuming they pass the fit and proper test)

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Re: FA Charges

Post by Poll » 26 Jan 2017, 13:07

A quick search at Companies House shows 2 active "Halesowen Town" limited companies. You can see for yourself at https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/sear ... sowen+town

I was particularly impressed with the misspelling of Halesowen in the address of one one them.

Not really sure why you would need two separate limited companies for one football club. Anyone any explanations?

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Re: FA Charges

Post by RaidenYeltz » 26 Jan 2017, 13:25

Just looking at Companies House now. I see potentially three companies that relate to the club;

Halesowen Town Football Club 1873 Limited.

Halesowen Town Limited.

HTFC1873.

The last one isn't registered at Old Hawne Lane, but you'd think it's related to Halesowen FC in some way, given the nature of the company name? I'm merely asking a question with this. Anyone know a definitive answer on this? It's certainly coincidental! If I'm wrong, I apologise.

The need for two or more separate companies, is anyone's guess.

I would take an educated guess that one company is used for football purposes. And the other would be used in relation to the Grove bar.

As I said. Just a guess.

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Re: FA Charges

Post by Spooky » 26 Jan 2017, 13:40

If you expand on the company within the search it gives you the nature of the business.

HTFC1873 LTD was only registered on 19th September 2016.

It's nature of business has been put as:
49390 - Other passenger land transport
77120 - Renting and leasing of trucks and other heavy vehicles

And it's owner is:
Lynch, Steven

If you click on Steve's name, it shows all posts he has held and an overlapping time frame for Eastwood and Halesowen over a couple of years ???

Read into that what you will.

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