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Seamus
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Re: Interviews

Post by Seamus » 22 Jan 2017, 11:47

Sorry blue box issues using this particular technology for me, does not make following my question easy. You made reference to clubs with smaller budgets playing better football and getting better results. Just wondered who those clubs were please.

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Post by Yeltz27 » 22 Jan 2017, 11:56

Seamus wrote:Sorry blue box issues using this particular technology for me, does not make following my question easy. You made reference to clubs with smaller budgets playing better football and getting better results. Just wondered who those clubs were please.
We have been through it all before. Halesowen under John Hill generally play the worst football in the league. There are lots of us who fail to see how Halesowen can have one of the lowest budgets, when we have such a large support base comparatively to other clubs at this level. When we lose to Mickleover on Saturday, are you going to say they've got a bigger budget when they've got virtually no fans? You say provide evidence, but we have heard again and again about every other club having bigger budgets. I think the argument about crowds is far more evidence than anything we've seen from anybody that just says 'trust me, they've got a bigger budget'

Personally I don't think the budget is the issue particularly. We had the best striker in the league by a mile for a few months and have still been dire. The budget is just an excuse for the fact we haven't got a manager who is capable enough at this level

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Re: Interviews

Post by RaidenYeltz » 22 Jan 2017, 12:03

Seamus wrote:Sorry blue box issues using this particular technology for me, does not make following my question easy. You made reference to clubs with smaller budgets playing better football and getting better results. Just wondered who those clubs were please.
Well I can name one straight off the bat, Bromsgrove, three levels below. I recall that they played us off the park in pre-season and have continued to play good football throughout the season.

In terms of this level, you can't really answer unless you know the budgets of all teams?

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Post by Seamus » 22 Jan 2017, 12:35

Raiden I agree, the question cannot be answered without knowing all the teams budgets, 100% correct. I felt the original comment was plain silly and needed to be called out, we just do not know, so a stupid question to ask in an interview. Perhaps Mickelover have double our budget, maybe we spend more, money does attract players, like it or not.

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Re: Interviews

Post by Yeltz27 » 22 Jan 2017, 12:55

Seamus wrote:Raiden I agree, the question cannot be answered without knowing all the teams budgets, 100% correct. I felt the original comment was plain silly and needed to be called out, we just do not know, so a stupid question to ask in an interview. Perhaps Mickelover have double our budget, maybe we spend more, money does attract players, like it or not.
It wasn't plain silly though was it. If we have one of the higher attendances at this level, then a lot of people at this level must be bankrolling clubs massively to make up their shortfall from gate receipts. It just doesn't add up. We are paying ten quid to watch this rubbish. Two weeks ago I paid five quid as I couldn't get there until half time. I wasn't bothered particularly by what I saw even though it was 2-4 against ten men, as I felt it was the appropriate fee. I've said it before and I will say it again, if JH is manager we should be paying £6. If you charge 10, you've got to offer something, some hope, a hope for change when things are like this, have a manager that is appropriate for that level. You can't keep taking money from unhappy people and not listening to them. If you do, eventually you will be left with about 20 people there on a Saturday. I still haven't seen one valid argument as to why John Hill should still be here

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Post by Seamus » 22 Jan 2017, 13:25

It is silly because you have NO playing budgets facts to back up your statement only your assumptions. To broaden it a little and interest a few others off to see the wonderful HMHB in a few weeks, famous Tranmere Rovers fans for those who don't know. They are very unhappy in having to compete with Forest Green and the money behind that club in the battle for a league place, sadly once again money seems to talk.

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Post by Yeltz27 » 22 Jan 2017, 14:15

Seamus wrote:It is silly because you have NO playing budgets facts to back up your statement only your assumptions.
The attendances is a fact. Whether you like it or not that is far more evidence than we've seen from those who say every club has a bigger budget. We have seen absolutely nothing from them so why are you taking issue with what I've said when I've never seen you take issue with those that have said other teams have bigger budgets. I've never seen you say they have no evidence when they have absolutely nothing either.

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Re: Interviews

Post by gingeryeltz » 22 Jan 2017, 14:23

Yeltz27 wrote:
Seamus wrote:Raiden I agree, the question cannot be answered without knowing all the teams budgets, 100% correct. I felt the original comment was plain silly and needed to be called out, we just do not know, so a stupid question to ask in an interview. Perhaps Mickelover have double our budget, maybe we spend more, money does attract players, like it or not.
It wasn't plain silly though was it. Yes it was as Seamus states you do not have the facts

If we have one of the higher attendances at this level, then a lot of people at this level must be bankrolling clubs massively to make up their shortfall from gate receipts. Correct Assumption

It just doesn't add up. I agree but you could try asking Steve.....................

We are paying ten quid to watch this rubbish. A few teams in this leaque are in the same position

Two weeks ago I paid five quid as I couldn't get there until half time.(because you were returning from China where you had wifi on the plane? ;D )

I wasn't bothered particularly by what I saw even though it was 2-4 against ten men, as I felt it was the appropriate fee. I've said it before and I will say it again,

if JH is manager we should be paying £6. What a stupid comment - we pay £10 because that is the going rate for this league.
If money is an issue for you as a poor musician try buying a season ticket like me - it works out at £6.67- just above the 'John Hill rate' of £6 :D

If you charge 10, you've got to offer something, some hope, a hope for change when things are like this, have a manager that is appropriate for that level. You can't keep taking money from unhappy people and not listening to them. Some would say if you do not like it then vote with your feet and stop moaning

If you do, eventually you will be left with about 20 people there on a Saturday. - The Yeltz family?

I still haven't seen one valid argument as to why John Hill should still be here
Well he is so get over it or better still get a room with Raiden :o

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Re: Interviews

Post by Yeltz27 » 22 Jan 2017, 14:33

Ginger, I don't really understand your comment about the wifi on the plane. Bizarre, yes, Qatar Airways does have onboard wifi. Can you or Seamus tell us what it is that makes you think John Hill should be here any longer? The performances are terrible, the results are terrible, so what is it?

And why are you more right than I am in assuming that other clubs have people bankrolling them. How do you know? You say correct assumption. Seamus asked me to, so surely you have to prove it as well

Yes £10 might be the going rate for clubs at this level. The difference is, chairmen of other clubs with results and performances like ours would have sacked their manager a long time ago. We are continually having to put up with this

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Re: Interviews

Post by andy » 22 Jan 2017, 16:21

27, you're wasting your time mate. If people want to be so blind, let them. The FOTG folk have gone and set up their own communication because they don't want to hear the truth anymore and the few that argue the point on here don't want to hear it either. The truth of the on and off field situation is as plain as day, to everybody, its just that some refuse to see.

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