Paulton Rovers

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Re: Paulton Rovers

Post by andy » 21 Jan 2012, 18:38

If we cant win that one i really dont know where the next 3 points will come from. Totally dominated the 1st half, yet still managed to give away 2 soft goals and come away with nothing. Ben Haseley looked good so i expect he will be gone shortly with a couple of clubs there watching him. I'm really not sure why Flower still stays with us, it must be demoralising watching one keeper after another come in, while he stays on the bench. Conner flapped at the winner and didn't look much more confident with anything else. It was better than of late, but same end result. Nothing.

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Re: Paulton Rovers

Post by HalesowenHarry » 21 Jan 2012, 18:39

lutleyyeltz wrote:The club is teetering on the brink of financial oblivion if this continues. Don't bleat on about consolidation - it's results which bring bigger gates and bigger gates bring better players - innit?
Totally frozen and also well p**sed off!
Hmmm, financial oblivion........ Going into administration with £400k worth of debt, or getting 150 diehards and paying what we can afford.......

I digress. It was actually a good first half followed by a shit second. Unfortunately a missed pen and a lack of ideas against a very combatitive and never say die '3rd placed' side meant we were found lacking again....... Maybe we build for next season with some youngsters added to the squad. Haseley is a good signing for starters, hopefully we can hang on to him.

I think the most important thing is the fact that the football committee that has been set up is excellent for the future of the club. Steve is not going to throw the money at it, and more importantly he's his own man when it comes to deciding who's the boss. I don't particularly think Cunnington has been the most tactical astute manager of the past 20 years but he does at least deserve the full season to see what he can build for next season. And trust me, that's difficult for me to even type!
Look at Stourbr*dge back in 2001 and work out how many years it took them. And I bet we'd all swap position with them rather than what happened with Morell and his cronies, that has meant we are where we are.

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Re: Paulton Rovers

Post by lutleyyeltz » 21 Jan 2012, 19:00

It's all about opinions, I guess. :-X

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Re: Paulton Rovers

Post by yeltzdan » 21 Jan 2012, 19:29

No-one can question the off-field stuff or the fact that we only spend what we can afford. That's sensible ownership. But it counts for nothing if the wrong bloke is in charge of what's happening on the field. Whether the budget's £800 a week or £3,000 a good manager will achieve more than a poor one. My concern, and I'm not the only one, is Cunnington is not a good manager. Yes, give him until the end of the season - we're not going down - but if things are as bleak then as they seem to be now he needs to go.

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Re: Paulton Rovers

Post by dazzlingdazza » 21 Jan 2012, 23:36

I have to say I don't think it was that bad at all! First half we were good, Ben Haseley was superb took his goal well, got us a penalty which should have seen them down to 10 men, also their keeper should have gone and he wasn't even booked!

2nd half they came out strong after probably having a roasting from their manager and looked very dangerous, was a bit miffed by Haseley being subbed with 12 minutes to go, can only presume he was knackered or had a knock as he was man of the match by far, I was a bit disappointed we didn't throw the kitchen sink at them at the end and commit more searching for the equaliser, I would have definitely got Jacko (who also played well, and 10/10 for his dive 1st half :) ) further winning flick ons for our front men, would rather have lost 3-1 being smashed on the counter attack going for the 2nd rather than only having 2 in the box! Disappointing Yes but a long way off dire for me! Yes we could have been better 2nd half but we will turn the corner soon if we can up it a little notch!

One Ben Haseley there's only one Ben Haseley! Well done !

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Re: Paulton Rovers

Post by ZeeZee » 22 Jan 2012, 00:18

HalesowenHarry wrote:
lutleyyeltz wrote:The club is teetering on the brink of financial oblivion if this continues. Don't bleat on about consolidation - it's results which bring bigger gates and bigger gates bring better players - innit?
Totally frozen and also well p**sed off!
Hmmm, financial oblivion........ Going into administration with £400k worth of debt, or getting 150 diehards and paying what we can afford.......

I digress. It was actually a good first half followed by a shit second. Unfortunately a missed pen and a lack of ideas against a very combatitive and never say die '3rd placed' side meant we were found lacking again....... Maybe we build for next season with some youngsters added to the squad. Haseley is a good signing for starters, hopefully we can hang on to him.

I think the most important thing is the fact that the football committee that has been set up is excellent for the future of the club. Steve is not going to throw the money at it, and more importantly he's his own man when it comes to deciding who's the boss. I don't particularly think Cunnington has been the most tactical astute manager of the past 20 years but he does at least deserve the full season to see what he can build for next season. And trust me, that's difficult for me to even type!
Look at Stourbr*dge back in 2001 and work out how many years it took them. And I bet we'd all swap position with them rather than what happened with Morell and his cronies, that has meant we are where we are.
Well said HH, it amazes me how people applaud efforts at other clubs ( Darlington, Kiddy etc) to save clubs that are on the brink yet fail to realise how close to the brink our own club has been, it's easy to think Steve should throw money at it THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HE HAS DONE TO KEEP THE CLUB ALIVE! Some of the people who were banging the drum during the 'stewardship' of the previous owners, ignoring the truth, despite the Trust constantly exposing the real picture now believe everyone should turn their back on the club because someone is trying to set it up to be run correctly and we have lost a few games in the process!

Let us bring someone in who will take us directly into the play offs, win loads of games with players we can't afford. The club of course would soon be a distant memory but at least we can all reflect on those wonderful glory days while we are wandering around Merry Hell on a Saturday afternoon.

This club has to be rebuilt from top to bottom, IT WILL TAKE TIME, it will test the patience of all those who really care but all those who really care will still be there when the light at the end of the tunnel is switched on again.

I hate losing as much as anyone but the performances both last week and this have been better, last week the game turned with a stupid red card, this week with a missed penalty. 5 defeats on the bounce is poor but wins will come, we're not going down and were never going to get promoted this season. As hard as it is at moment we have to stick together and stay behind OUR club to keep it here in the long term, we WILL be back where we belong in the future.

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Re: Paulton Rovers

Post by JohnC » 22 Jan 2012, 01:06

YeltzDoc wrote:their man is lucky to only be booked for the penalty as he was the last man
Oh no he wasn't ( i don't mean panto time) there were two other defenders near by and closer to the goal. Fractions but seeable from a side on view.

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Re: Paulton Rovers

Post by JohnC » 22 Jan 2012, 01:20

ZeeZee wrote: Some of the people who were banging the drum during the 'stewardship' of the previous owners, ignoring the truth, despite the Trust constantly exposing the real picture now believe everyone should turn their back on the club because someone is trying to set it up to be run correctly and we have lost a few games in the process!
I have not heard or seen anyone saying that everyone should turn there back on the club.
People have pointed that the "floaters" will float.

Managers of football are judged by results thou.

When we are in this league next season we will still be playing the same teams presumably based on the same budget. So we need to see some wins and better performances in the run in.

Forgive my memory but are people saying that due to timing of change of owners Shaun did not have a enough of a pre-season for 2011/12 season?
However, you could argue he has now had nearly 7 months of a pre-season for 2012/2013 against some of the same opposition.

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Re: Paulton Rovers

Post by watsisnerm » 22 Jan 2012, 09:14

and a big part of the rebuilding is that after the match the players came in the yeltz bar, its all begining to feel l like we re in this together, you could talk to the players, realise jones blames himself for that miss, that jackson is enjoying his new central role etc.. now they are becoming our players not just some lads who just take the money and go home leaving supporters that dont even know them to slag them off on the forum
its getting there off the pitch and on the pitch as with any walk of life, after a reasonable amount of time, if things dont improve then things have to be changed.. but it has to be after a reasonable amount of time. (unless we want to do like `have i got news for you` and have a guest host (manager) every week!)

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Re: Paulton Rovers

Post by yeltz85 » 22 Jan 2012, 09:39

watsisnerm wrote:and a big part of the rebuilding is that after the match the players came in the yeltz bar, its all begining to feel l like we re in this together, you could talk to the players, realise jones blames himself for that miss, that jackson is enjoying his new central role etc.. now they are becoming our players not just some lads who just take the money and go home leaving supporters that dont even know them to slag them off on the forum
its getting there off the pitch and on the pitch as with any walk of life, after a reasonable amount of time, if things dont improve then things have to be changed.. but it has to be after a reasonable amount of time. (unless we want to do like `have i got news for you` and have a guest host (manager) every week!)
Thats a big part of rebuiling in my opinion.

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