John Hill Statement
- andy
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Not moaning. Not sure how relating what we see to what we put on here can be done any other way. But I'll try....
Aside from all the other positive comments I put on here I would just like to add that I also enjoyed the way we relinquished a 2 goal lead late on, on Saturday. It would have been a shame to have spoilt our current run of results. I enjoyed the 3 goals but must also stress that I have enjoyed all the blank sheets recently also.
Doesn't work does it.
John Hill is the BEST man for the job, just as Mourinho is best for the Chelsea job, yet its fine to question him if Chelsea do as much as concede. If we cant analyse what we have seen, in the forum, then I cant see the point of it.
Aside from all the other positive comments I put on here I would just like to add that I also enjoyed the way we relinquished a 2 goal lead late on, on Saturday. It would have been a shame to have spoilt our current run of results. I enjoyed the 3 goals but must also stress that I have enjoyed all the blank sheets recently also.
Doesn't work does it.
John Hill is the BEST man for the job, just as Mourinho is best for the Chelsea job, yet its fine to question him if Chelsea do as much as concede. If we cant analyse what we have seen, in the forum, then I cant see the point of it.
- dazzlingdazza
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Am not saying don't be critical, but there seems to be a few people on here voicing their opinions when things haven't gone well let's say, but how about folk actually getting behind the team on the terraces ! I am sure John and the team would appreciate that, it's easy to voice an opinion on here good or bad but not many do it where it matters !
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How do you know we don't. I get behind the team as much as any other person in that ground. Always have done. Its all seeming to become a question of who knows who here. At away games that I cant make I look forward to reading Robs report. It is always balanced, sensible and informative. And often contains a moan or critisism. Yet never have I read of anyone having a go at him. And rightly so. Yet I, and others write what I consider to be balanced views overall and get slated for anything negative. I wonder why?
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I don't slate people, everyone is entitled to their opinion and that's fine. Just my point is some people on here would moan if their arse was on fire ! (Sarcastic) In fact if we were 15 points clear at the top they would find something to moan about.
If you look at Rob's reports if he is critical, he is never directly critical, he uses words like "Maybe" and "Perhaps we could of done this" offers an opinion with a possible way of how it could of gone or been done.
There are people on here that use phrases like "I question the managers tactics/decisions" with not a lot of offering in in positive solutions, just this was crap, that was crap, etc etc, that is not the best way of putting things and sounds under mining, that's probably one of the reasons why no one has a go at Rob, as well as all the fantastic other work he has done for this club.
I am sorry if I sound defensive of John Hill, but in my eyes what he has done for this club is nothing much short of a miracle and the last thing I want to see is him be p***** off again like he was early in the season.
My post might only be aimed at 2-3 on here and not the vast majority.
If you look at Rob's reports if he is critical, he is never directly critical, he uses words like "Maybe" and "Perhaps we could of done this" offers an opinion with a possible way of how it could of gone or been done.
There are people on here that use phrases like "I question the managers tactics/decisions" with not a lot of offering in in positive solutions, just this was crap, that was crap, etc etc, that is not the best way of putting things and sounds under mining, that's probably one of the reasons why no one has a go at Rob, as well as all the fantastic other work he has done for this club.
I am sorry if I sound defensive of John Hill, but in my eyes what he has done for this club is nothing much short of a miracle and the last thing I want to see is him be p***** off again like he was early in the season.
My post might only be aimed at 2-3 on here and not the vast majority.
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Someone said something to me today, which is spot on...
If we win late on Sat the same people won't praise John Hill's substitutions. They'd most likely slate the fact why the player didn't start.
If we win late on Sat the same people won't praise John Hill's substitutions. They'd most likely slate the fact why the player didn't start.
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You're making an assumption there of course. And so what if that did happen? We pay our entry like you and if that was genuinely our opinion what's the problem? Some people are tired of the over the top praise but none of those people ever insult the people who have those views.RaidenYeltz wrote:Someone said something to me today, which is spot on...
If we win late on Sat the same people won't praise John Hill's substitutions. They'd most likely slate the fact why the player didn't start.
It's hard to disagree or make an argument against anything that KenR and Andy have said. I said earlier in the season that 10 pounds was too much for entry and got hammered for it, yet Raiden posted the same a couple of months later. Nothing was said to him so it definitely appears there is one rule for certain people and another for others.
And in relation to the tactics thing, people didn't like me saying it and shouted me down suggesting the tactics were right. Yet in the same breath those people say "but the manager changed them to the 3-5-2 which was great". So either the tactics were right or they weren't, you can't have it both ways. John Hill deserved huge credit for changing them and the results that followed. Knowing how to sort things like that are why he is the manager and we aren't. I don't claim to know much about football but if you can see something isn't quite right and it's your opinion I don't see how it can be so controversial.
There has to be a balance. Some things are good, some not so good
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Hi Andy.... me thinks what Josh and Darren are attempting to point out to you, is basically try and sound a little
bit more positive/light hearted/upbeat in your general comments. We all have the chance to view our comments, including yourself of cause. Being a regular home and away follower with the likes of Josh, Darren, John Cooper, Rob and quite a few more. I appreciate your support home and away as and when you can make your way to the games, being shall we say a little bit older at 64, following the Yeltz for the last 30 plus years, going back to
the early " Paddy Page Days " l like to think l have a fair bit of back ground insight to our club.
Yes l am aware of many senior fans older than myself and with probably more knowledge about the goings on
that have occurred in the past, but the past is the past. So that's a bit about me Andy, you will be seeing a great many changes for the betterment of our club in the very near future. As l am not the one to give you details, that not my job/or position..... keep watching this space..... also on other forums, Andy no one is attempting to put you down or give you a slating, try not to take things/comments so personally.
Life is much to short, when l put something on forum l do not attempt to side with anyone or group.
I don not know who you are. do not believe l have met you, was the one working with Emma selling programmes at home game against FC United fantastic day, lighten up a little bit, come in the JGL and have a pint Andy.
At the end of the day we are Yeltz men and women having fun watching this fantastic club the great days will come back Andy, maybe not in my life time, who knows..... Just believe, have faith, we can but dream.
As for John Hill ,my views are he has as much right to state his option/options as any one, he's a forum member, is he the man for our club YES he is . Has he made mistakes of cause he has don't we all. But l can tell you this for sure
John, Trevor, Kevin, Rob and all the other staff hate to loose. John doesn't take decision lightly, he talks to Trevor and Kevin before he makes changes. As was the situation on Saturday with the subs, yes we should have close the game out on seventy or so minutes left, but we did not, these things happen. We are safe are we not! anymore is a bonus. Andy.... Josh and Darren are good lads, you can take that from me, their passion for our club can not be measured by mere words they follow and follow, hopefully like yourself.

bit more positive/light hearted/upbeat in your general comments. We all have the chance to view our comments, including yourself of cause. Being a regular home and away follower with the likes of Josh, Darren, John Cooper, Rob and quite a few more. I appreciate your support home and away as and when you can make your way to the games, being shall we say a little bit older at 64, following the Yeltz for the last 30 plus years, going back to
the early " Paddy Page Days " l like to think l have a fair bit of back ground insight to our club.
Yes l am aware of many senior fans older than myself and with probably more knowledge about the goings on
that have occurred in the past, but the past is the past. So that's a bit about me Andy, you will be seeing a great many changes for the betterment of our club in the very near future. As l am not the one to give you details, that not my job/or position..... keep watching this space..... also on other forums, Andy no one is attempting to put you down or give you a slating, try not to take things/comments so personally.
Life is much to short, when l put something on forum l do not attempt to side with anyone or group.
I don not know who you are. do not believe l have met you, was the one working with Emma selling programmes at home game against FC United fantastic day, lighten up a little bit, come in the JGL and have a pint Andy.
At the end of the day we are Yeltz men and women having fun watching this fantastic club the great days will come back Andy, maybe not in my life time, who knows..... Just believe, have faith, we can but dream.
As for John Hill ,my views are he has as much right to state his option/options as any one, he's a forum member, is he the man for our club YES he is . Has he made mistakes of cause he has don't we all. But l can tell you this for sure
John, Trevor, Kevin, Rob and all the other staff hate to loose. John doesn't take decision lightly, he talks to Trevor and Kevin before he makes changes. As was the situation on Saturday with the subs, yes we should have close the game out on seventy or so minutes left, but we did not, these things happen. We are safe are we not! anymore is a bonus. Andy.... Josh and Darren are good lads, you can take that from me, their passion for our club can not be measured by mere words they follow and follow, hopefully like yourself.



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Hi Yeltz 27 hopefully you'd like to comment on my previous points, please chill a little bit.... come into the JGL and have a pint with Josh, Darren, Rob, John and a few of the other regulars... even me!!




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Please may I ask why I should "chill"? I was called a c@#t a few weeks ago on here for having a different opinion. In fact, that insult came after I had agreed with one of Raiden's own posts. Is that acceptable?BeautifulMelYeltz wrote:Hi Yeltz 27 hopefully you'd like to comment on my previous points, please chill a little bit.... come into the JGL and have a pint with Josh, Darren, Rob, John and a few of the other regulars... even me!!![]()
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I'm not sure I'm particularly wound up or angry actually. I haven't posted anything controversial above as far as I can see
- andy
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Melyeltz. A little about myself. I too have been following for 30 years. Until funds prohibited I followed home and away every week. Indeed I once went 9 years without missing any game, anywhere. I can still count home league games ever missed on one hand. So do you now think I have a right to an opinion?
I also keep (mostly) the offensive comments to myself unlike these other wonderful people. I am sick and f*cking tired of this pathetic ongoing self righteousness. I give up.
I also keep (mostly) the offensive comments to myself unlike these other wonderful people. I am sick and f*cking tired of this pathetic ongoing self righteousness. I give up.