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Re: Bedford Updates

Post by Yeltzbaby » 18 Aug 2024, 21:11

KenR wrote:
18 Aug 2024, 20:46
Yeltzbaby, I've been expecting you to appear
spouting your misguided drivel , Lets start with Smith, he had completely lost it when he first resigned, absurb team selections, like the one against Concord, a season we should and were winning the league until he cocked it up. He should never have been reappointed to replace Socket and Reynolds. Ah but he got us promoted I hear you say, so could any other manager. A total lack of tactics, and his falling out and arguing with good players and forcing them out of the club when leaving them on the bench whilst selecting inferior players , beggared belief . Yet you championed him which illustrated your lack of football knowledge and of the club. So on to Penn, I made it clear at the time that I did nt think he was the man for the job , on the back of a final run in which saw Harriers creep to promotion via the back door. He failed to do it in the top division of the National League.
I saw enough of his tactics last season to think they were negative. The fact that he only brought in one player Lissiemore , seemed to sow the seed . In close season , the players he has brought in were/are no better than the players he let go, and in cases inferior and to HAVE OR WANT to resign Booth is a joke. Of course I know Yousef scored yesterday but is another who is past his sell buy date and is never going to be a 20/25 goal a season man and does very little else.
Kenr - not sure what you are rambling about, but the most successful manager in our recent history is now managing a club currently above us? Take your blinkers off and as I said let's judge after 12 games. Oh and STOP TYPING IN CAPITALS. As I am not part of the clique on here and have had my personal opinions deleted in the past, with no offence content, just a difference of opinion, maybe this one will be deleted too. Fgs

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Re: Bedford Updates

Post by Yeltzbaby » 18 Aug 2024, 21:13

So kenr you didn't rate Smith, now you don't rate Penn? So who would you appoint. Bearing in mind we are currently in one of the highest positions in our 100 plus years history. Talk about football knowledge.....haha

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Re: Bedford Updates

Post by Trebor84 » 18 Aug 2024, 23:18

Have just watched the post match interview with Russ and amazed that there was no mention of reinforcements to come in this week.

Not sure if we are deliberately leaving it late to see who is being made available from leagues above but on the face of it recruitment hasn’t been anywhere near what it needed to be in my opinion.

Taylor was superb last season alongside Wynter yet it sounds like he has left the club. Could be due to the fact that he didn’t sign up until after pre season was well under way but don’t think bringing Nat Kelly back was the answer either.

It was clear from the moment pre season started that everything seemed a little disjointed with the quality of the trialist’s and general lack of numbers.

Reinforcement’s are a must this week with the double header coming next weekend and can’t afford to be going into it without more quality in midfield and up top.

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Re: Bedford Updates

Post by andy » 19 Aug 2024, 07:26

Yeltzbaby wrote:
18 Aug 2024, 21:13
Bearing in mind we are currently in one of the highest positions in our 100 plus years history. Talk about football knowledge.....haha

Unfortunately that's wrong as well. We spent the 90's in the second tier of non league, finishing second ourselves one year.
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Re: Bedford Updates

Post by Josh1873 » 19 Aug 2024, 09:26

andy wrote:
19 Aug 2024, 07:26
Yeltzbaby wrote:
18 Aug 2024, 21:13
Bearing in mind we are currently in one of the highest positions in our 100 plus years history. Talk about football knowledge.....haha

Unfortunately that's wrong as well. We spent the 90's in the second tier of non league, finishing second ourselves one year.
It, frankly, boils my piss that that fact gets overlooked. I know I wasn't a fan back then, I was only a nipper ;D but overlooking our history is criminal.

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Re: Bedford Updates

Post by Josh1873 » 19 Aug 2024, 09:44

I can't help but feel there's a lot of overreaction going on, and I'm the worst for overreacting! I don't think our general play was 'that' bad. Admittedly Bedford scored the early goal and sat back with the plan to hit us on the counter. Once we got one back I thought we could go on and get an equaliser and even a winner, but we were hit with a sucker punch third goal, and that was game over.

We're 3 games in and have 4 points. I think that's a reasonable enough start. I saw enough of Penn at the back end of last season to 100% trust that he knows what he's doing, and I still believe we're in for a good season. Let's not let one defeat cause panic!

What surely can't help the team is knowing we don't have a genuine forward right now. That is really hurting us. And of course we are now without Manning short term and Flanagan long term. I am concerned at the threadbare nature of the squad. I am always concerned when I see a friendly line up so close to the season with a number of trialists in the XI. Granted we signed those in Kelly and Boothe, but it's a worrying sign that harkens back to the Lynch/Hill era of signing any Tom, Dick or Harry just to fill the team sheet. Is that where we're heading?

I can only speculate that our budget has been greatly cut? There were rumours during Smith's tenure that he was funding a number of players he signed, so I assume the budget is less than previous due to this? I only speculate that this is the case as surely no manager would enter into a campaign with such a threadbare and unbalanced squad? We're opting to start a right back as our lone striker over two strikers Penn has brought in! That is concerning. KD has been great, but it's not his natural position, but he's a far better option than Boothe or Yusuff.

That being said I think we're a couple of decent forwards and a scrappy CM type player from having a decent squad when fully fit. I don't think you need too much depth. in terms of that any player willing to settle for a bit part bench role isn't worth having. In my mind you have a strong 16 and a couple of academy players to create a balanced squad, and if you suffer with a number of injuries/suspensions you then look to recruit.

As for the talk of Paul Smith and careful what you wish for comments. What utter nonsense. Let's not forget how terrible we were in the weeks and months before he walked. You may argue if Penn is the right answer, or not (I believe he is, for what it's worth), but the answer wasn't and is not Smith. He had a good squad, which was proved in the first 10 games and then again when Penn took over, but he failed to achieve success with that squad, and results and performances, over 20 or so games, were unacceptable. Why are we re-writing last season? Careful what I wish for? I wished for Smith to move on because it wasn't good enough, I've made it clear I believe as a whole his tenure was a success and he brought so many fond memories over the 3/4 years, but time was time. It was the correct decision all round for him to move on. Anyone questioning that needs to give their head a wobble!

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Re: Bedford Updates

Post by old git » 19 Aug 2024, 09:50

Josh1873 wrote:
19 Aug 2024, 09:44
I can't help but feel there's a lot of overreaction going on, and I'm the worst for overreacting! I don't think our general play was 'that' bad. Admittedly Bedford scored the early goal and sat back with the plan to hit us on the counter. Once we got one back I thought we could go on and get an equaliser and even a winner, but we were hit with a sucker punch third goal, and that was game over.

We're 3 games in and have 4 points. I think that's a reasonable enough start. I saw enough of Penn at the back end of last season to 100% trust that he knows what he's doing, and I still believe we're in for a good season. Let's not let one defeat cause panic!

What surely can't help the team is knowing we don't have a genuine forward right now. That is really hurting us. And of course we are now without Manning short term and Flanagan long term. I am concerned at the threadbare nature of the squad. I am always concerned when I see a friendly line up so close to the season with a number of trialists in the XI. Granted we signed those in Kelly and Boothe, but it's a worrying sign that harkens back to the Lynch/Hill era of signing any Tom, Dick or Harry just to fill the team sheet. Is that where we're heading?

I can only speculate that our budget has been greatly cut? There were rumours during Smith's tenure that he was funding a number of players he signed, so I assume the budget is less than previous due to this? I only speculate that this is the case as surely no manager would enter into a campaign with such a threadbare and unbalanced squad? We're opting to start a right back as our lone striker over two strikers Penn has brought in! That is concerning. KD has been great, but it's not his natural position, but he's a far better option than Boothe or Yusuff.

That being said I think we're a couple of decent forwards and a scrappy CM type player from having a decent squad when fully fit. I don't think you need too much depth. in terms of that any player willing to settle for a bit part bench role isn't worth having. In my mind you have a strong 16 and a couple of academy players to create a balanced squad, and if you suffer with a number of injuries/suspensions you then look to recruit.

As for the talk of Paul Smith and careful what you wish for comments. What utter nonsense. Let's not forget how terrible we were in the weeks and months before he walked. You may argue if Penn is the right answer, or not (I believe he is, for what it's worth), but the answer wasn't and is not Smith. He had a good squad, which was proved in the first 10 games and then again when Penn took over, but he failed to achieve success with that squad, and results and performances, over 20 or so games, were unacceptable. Why are we re-writing last season? Careful what I wish for? I wished for Smith to move on because it wasn't good enough, I've made it clear I believe as a whole his tenure was a success and he brought so many fond memories over the 3/4 years, but time was time. It was the correct decision all round for him to move on. Anyone questioning that needs to give their head a wobble!
There you go Josh … such wise words when you leave it a few days … unlike your drunken tirades at 5pm on a Saturday 😂😂😂

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Re: Bedford Updates

Post by Yeltzbaby » 19 Aug 2024, 10:06

Josh1873 wrote:
19 Aug 2024, 09:26
andy wrote:
19 Aug 2024, 07:26
Yeltzbaby wrote:
18 Aug 2024, 21:13
Bearing in mind we are currently in one of the highest positions in our 100 plus years history. Talk about football knowledge.....haha

Unfortunately that's wrong as well. We spent the 90's in the second tier of non league, finishing second ourselves one year.
It, frankly, boils my piss that that fact gets overlooked. I know I wasn't a fan back then, I was only a nipper ;D but overlooking our history is criminal.
and it boils my piss when people dont read posts properly i said 'ONE' of our highest position in our history, not THE highest. Its fair to say that we have spent a greater percentage of time below this below than we have above it.......thats was my point

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Re: Bedford Updates

Post by Simons » 19 Aug 2024, 10:24

As regards the budget obviously only a few people know the details of that, but as I posted on a previous thread, when Redditch announced that Wollacott and Flanagan were leaving they stated "we tried everything to retain their services offering deals to them that are probably the best ever offered to players in the clubs history". So either we have used a lot of the budget on them, or Redditch paid much less.

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Re: Bedford Updates

Post by piearce9 » 19 Aug 2024, 10:43

Yeltzbaby wrote:
19 Aug 2024, 10:06
and it boils my piss when people dont read posts properly i said 'ONE' of our highest position in our history, not THE highest. Its fair to say that we have spent a greater percentage of time below this below than we have above it.......thats was my point
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