Reasons For Optimism

[lutleyyeltz]

Nobody is forcing you to attend - just stay away and do yourself and us a favour.
You know you'll feel better when you stop taking the negativity pill.

[Yeltz27]

Nobody is forcing you to attend - just stay away and do yourself and us a favour.
You know you'll feel better when you stop taking the negativity pill.

Posts like this really are disgusting. Stay away and do who a favour exactly? Staying away helps no club, let alone a club the size of Halesowen. And would you like it if I told you to stay away? You're talking to somebody who has been going for over 20 years, just like yourself. The club isn't allowed to be criticised? How many fans would you have left if you take your attitude. I seem to remember you being fairly critical last season so to jump on people is being pretty hypocritical.

And maybe stop with the medication stuff. It's ignorant and offensive on a few levels

[AwayDayYeltz]

I think the 'stop attending' comment is a little harsh. I'll still be attending long after the current regime has gone. I support the football club - not the current regime.

[piearce9]

So, as I was saying, isn't it great that everyone's feeling so positive?

[dazzlingdazza]

Nobody is forcing you to attend - just stay away and do yourself and us a favour.
You know you'll feel better when you stop taking the negativity pill.

Posts like this really are disgusting. Stay away and do who a favour exactly? Staying away helps no club, let alone a club the size of Halesowen. And would you like it if I told you to stay away? You're talking to somebody who has been going for over 20 years, just like yourself. The club isn't allowed to be criticised? How many fans would you have left if you take your attitude. I seem to remember you being fairly critical last season so to jump on people is being pretty hypocritical.

And maybe stop with the medication stuff. It's ignorant and offensive on a few levels

In my opinion your post is disgusting, a ball hasn't even been kicked of the new season yet and you're already spouting your negativity all over the forum. Whilst the club needs your money it does not need your CONSTANT low feeling.

May I suggest you get an Aura cleanse or like Lutley posted stop taking the daily negative pill, you might actually start supporting the club rather than needing something to spout off your daily bile.

This club needs fans that love the club not fans that constantly slag it off, negativism is fine in moderation but to go places ideas need to be put forward and then carried out, which if you open your eyes is happening. We can all play a role in this, even if it's encouraging the team, let's face it if you encourage someone the likely hood is they will respond in a positive way.

[Yeltz27]

Nobody is forcing you to attend - just stay away and do yourself and us a favour.
You know you'll feel better when you stop taking the negativity pill.

Posts like this really are disgusting. Stay away and do who a favour exactly? Staying away helps no club, let alone a club the size of Halesowen. And would you like it if I told you to stay away? You're talking to somebody who has been going for over 20 years, just like yourself. The club isn't allowed to be criticised? How many fans would you have left if you take your attitude. I seem to remember you being fairly critical last season so to jump on people is being pretty hypocritical.

And maybe stop with the medication stuff. It's ignorant and offensive on a few levels

In my opinion your post is disgusting, a ball hasn't even been kicked of the new season yet and you're already spouting your negativity all over the forum. Whilst the club needs your money it does not need your CONSTANT low feeling.

May I suggest you get an Aura cleanse or like Lutley posted stop taking the daily negative pill, you might actually start supporting the club rather than needing something to spout off your daily bile.

This club needs fans that love the club not fans that constantly slag it off, negativism is fine in moderation but to go places ideas need to be put forward and then carried out, which if you open your eyes is happening. We can all play a role in this, even if it's encouraging the team, let's face it if you encourage someone the likely hood is they will respond in a positive way.

I'm not aware there is anything disgusting about saying you want a change of manager, and that that hasn't happened.

You seem to get very concerned about how the negativity makes the club look on here, but I've never seen you get upset about some of the things people write to people on social media. I know the club now remove posts they don't like on their official feeds, but that in itself hardly paints the club in a good light does it. People should be allowed to comment and criticise. Unless they are posting official media things without permission, I'm not really sure what right the club has to remove things people write unless they contain abuse or are offensive. 'We don't like that because somebody is saying HIll out' for example isn't a solid reason and it really doesn't look good. You say ideas put forward are considered, well I'm putting the idea forward that blocking people and removing posts is a terrible idea. Whoever is in charge of the social media side of things should go and do some research. You can't control what people write after they've paid to see something, whether you like it and agree or not. It is what it is, and every sports club or any performing company has to accept it

And it's always 'do the club a favour'. You do realise the club can do itself a favour and make the change that needs making?

[HalesowenHarry]

Well I don't agree with you. So get over it. Hill should get 10 to 12 matches with a stable behind the scenes and a decent pitch (don't bore me with the it's the same for both sides, it is, and this year it'll be a better pitch). Oh and a decent budget. The change that needed to happen has almost happened IMH 27 years of supporting O. And that started July 1st. If it goes tits up this season (you've usually got an idea after 10 to 12 league matches and hopefully some cup games) then I see no reason why the club wouldn't consider a change of manager. But on the flip side they need to back him if it goes really well (not sure what should happen if we're midtable by then )

Look back since 2011 and look at when he had a decent behind the scenes, budget and to a lesser degree better pitch. Oh yeah, he won the league (below I know before you bore everyone with that).

By the way, before more unneccesary inner circle comments are made, I'm feck all to do with the clubs running etc.
Luckily I don't think this forum is viewed as much as before, mainly down to it's content on offer. But if it was viewed by the masses, it doesn't paint us all well. If you think all that about the club and the people involved, have you thought of contacting Karen Brookes and seeing what she'd say about it all? She's very open (I went to the forum) and seems approachable. Or alternatively just give up on the club.

[andy]

When last season was drawing to a close I was all for giving the lot up. For good. I genuinely could not foresee any change whatsoever. I was unsure whether we would even be here now. I never in a million years thought the pitch would be done, but it has, and looks a right good surface at the moment. I never thought the club would 'get away' with Steve's wrongdoings. Yet it has even if Steve hasn't. I never thought someone would come in, (Karen), and change so many peoples hopes and thoughts as to the progression of the club. But it has happened. I accept many will not be happy until there is a change of management and that's a fair choice. If I had not watched the last couple of games I would be in that boat. Only friendlies but a definite change of mindset out there IMO. At the moment I'm for giving him another shot at it, and om a decent pitch with some ball players we may well have a chance. It may all go tits up but lets give it a go first. There REALLY has been a great deal done to possibly make it a decent season. Don't get me wrong if we resort to the same old, same old, I'll be the first on here to say so. But right now lets get behind them.

[gingeryeltz]

Some fans are just annoying boring and negative attention seekers and need to get a life or maybe a new club down the road?
Or better still they could 'get a room' with other negative so called fans - they could give each other some attention then.

[AwayDayYeltz]

There is no wrong or right attitude. A fan can be positive or negative if they can back it up with reasoned arguments. It's perfectly acceptable either way, as long as you don't resort to verbally abusing and threatening those who disagree with your view...which is the case in some situations (not on this forum).

I've been there and done that in terms of being optimistic for the new season, it only ever comes back and bites you on the arse. I have a very pessimistic attitude of 'if you don't expect much, you won't be left disappointed'.

I tend not to judge pre-season friendlies for a number of reasons. Firstly the level of opposition we play isn't conducive to judging players that will need to be competitive against much better opposition when the league campaign rolls around. Secondly friendlies are used for regaining match fitness after the break and for experimenting with varying formations and viewing trialists. Although IMO we seem to view more trialists than I'd like. I'd like to see us have a settled squad playing a certain formation / tactic for a number of games so we can hit the ground running when the season starts.

As I've said in previous posts on this thread, I'm encouraged from what people are saying about our home performances. People whose opinions I value tell me that the football we played has actually been very good. Long may this continue. I'm looking forward to seeing if this remains the case in our league campaign.

As for the change Yeltz 27 refers to, we know John Hill is un-sackable, so there is little or no point for calling for that change, is there? It's not happening. We just have to accept it. I suppose it's a new season, a new start, and the management team need time to prove they can change the poor performances we've seen over the past two years or so.

My personal feeling is 'things won't change' in terms of performances and results,I hope I'm wrong and that the good football supposedly seen at home games is the start of a positive season. I just can't see it on the basis of the previous two seasons and what I've seen my self in pre-season. Let's hope I'm eating humble pie come April.

Apologies if the above attitude is construed as negative, but as Andy said above the back end of last year was bad and it doesn't inspire optimism. It's now up to the team to give me reason to be positive with firstly results and secondly performances that make me want to watch Halesowen Town FC.