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[dazzlingdazza]

It seems that whatever is done there are always people that want to pick things to pieces anyway, that's the mentality of a lot of folk on this forum.

[Yeltz27]

It seems that whatever is done there are always people that want to pick things to pieces anyway, that's the mentality of a lot of folk on this forum.

Keep thinking that if you like, but you'd be wrong. Maybe some of the things that are done are sometimes wrong? Just because you go to a working party for example doesn't make you automatically right and mean that you can dictate what the club and what the fans do.This culture never existed until about three years ago

[dazzlingdazza]

You only have to open your eyes to see what has been done at the club. Nobody is dictating, in fact we encourage people to get involved, there are no leaders, we all muck in because we are doing it for the football club we love.

There's obviously a lot of jealousy which is crazy, I will repeat what I have said over and over again, what has been done in the past is brilliant, we wouldn't have a club without "The Yeltz Trust" but time doesn't stop, "The Yeltz Trust" is not operating, it's been mentioned that fans didn't want it, this is true to a certain extent, however people not receiving information or membership when they have paid hardly gives you confidence, this could also have contributed.

I still think there are people that feel like they had their noses knocked out of joint, and have the mentally that because it's not their toy anymore they don't want to play with it, when in fact it can be everyone's toy !

[RobYeltz]

It seems that whatever is done there are always people that want to pick things to pieces anyway, that's the mentality of a lot of folk on this forum.

Keep thinking that if you like, but you'd be wrong. Maybe some of the things that are done are sometimes wrong? Just because you go to a working party for example doesn't make you automatically right and mean that you can dictate what the club and what the fans do.This culture never existed until about three years ago

It's amazing how the newer fans seem to have digs thrown at them all the time, I guess it's part of putting yourself up there to be shot at.

I've not been around more than three years admittedly, but have done lots of reading about this club before then. I'm envious of the fact many of you were here in the glory days and I'm respectful to those who fought to save the club from not being here. By doing as much as I do now I can fully appreciate the work that must have gone into saving the club. Whilst I may not have been there, seen it and done it at the time I can fully understand why so many people feel so upset about the badge being got rid of and the lack of information shared about why it has happened.

To put a little perspective though, people who have been coming to the club for many years are appreciative of the work the newer fans have done, and acknowledge that we're trying hard to help the club move forwards. However there are also a small number of fans who've gone out of their way to make things difficult for us, they've been deliberately obstructive and fail to support anything that we do. I genuinely wish as fans we could all come together to try and help the club move forwards, irrespective of your views on people involved with the club, or how long you've been a fan. I've been to more games in the last two years than some Yeltz fans have in 5 years, it doesn't make me any better or worse as a fan, we're all the same in my eyes.

[Yeltz27]

why so many people feel so upset about the badge being got rid of and the lack of information shared about why it has happened.

To put a little perspective though, people who have been coming to the club for many years are appreciative of the work the newer fans have done, and acknowledge that we're trying hard to help the club move forwards. However there are also a small number of fans who've gone out of their way to make things difficult for us, they've been deliberately obstructive

Thank you for finally acknowledging that a lack of information has been shared. Last week you told me on here that numerous people had explained it. That was evidently not the case.

Also, who are the small number of fans you refer to who are being obstructive?

[sprout]

Daz, where is the jealousy? - I don't want to get personal but you really don't have a clue !! Why would we be jealous of giving up our days, our weekends. Why would we be jealous of getting our lives back? We have been there for the club, in many cases (and I'm not talking in terms of the trust) at great personal expense!!!

You know what, we got on and did it - but we always took the time to learn from those around us - those with more experience - we took this experience and we added our own take on it, but we NEVER forgot what we learnt!

No one questions the effort put in by individuals - there have been many over a great number of years - but this is about the history of our club - The Tradition!! The Pride !! The away days that consisted of more that 10 - 15 people

Please, speak to those around you and ask them to listen to sense !!

[andy]

It seems that whatever is done there are always people that want to pick things to pieces anyway, that's the mentality of a lot of folk on this forum.

I wonder what your thoughts might have been had that tattoo of yours been under the 'real' crest instead of an England flag.

PS I'm not looking to pick things to pieces as you call it. I genuinely care about this issue. I am also very pissed off being told that those that no longer help out around the place apparently should have no voice.

[dazzlingdazza]

Daz, where is the jealousy? - I don't want to get personal but you really don't have a clue !! Why would we be jealous of giving up our days, our weekends. Why would we be jealous of getting our lives back? We have been there for the club, in many cases (and I'm not talking in terms of the trust) at great personal expense!!!

You know what, we got on and did it - but we always took the time to learn from those around us - those with more experience - we took this experience and we added our own take on it, but we NEVER forgot what we learnt!

No one questions the effort put in by individuals - there have been many over a great number of years - but this is about the history of our club - The Tradition!! The Pride !! The away days that consisted of more that 10 - 15 people

Please, speak to those around you and ask them to listen to sense !!

The jealousy I am relating to has nothing to do with you getting your weekends back etc, but good luck to you.
I am referring to the fact that it's not the way you wanted things to go forward after "The Trust" and I don't think you like it at all.

I am sure all concerned always listen to people that have more experience, but for the record it has been said by people who have been involved in the club for decades, that good things have been done and things are looking up. They should know.

As for the new club badge, to be honest I am not a huge fan of it, but can see why it's been done, things need updating from time to time and let's face it we are not the 1st club to change.

I just think there are far more important matters, let's face it the heart of the club was ripped out under a couple of previous regimes and the club is still rebuilding. In my opinion the sky is the limit for this club, there are some fantastic people involved in the club, and there are also some fantastic people out there that should be involved.

You say that I don't have a clue, that's your opinion, obviously I was a member of The Trust and am now a FOTG member, I have seen both parts, but it's not about sides, it's about getting involved with the football club. We all might have times when we disagree with this or that which is fine, but it shouldn't come to potentially boycotting should it ??

As for you saying I should speak to those around me and listen to sense, well perhaps you should come down off your high horse and look around you of what has been done, just like the good work you lot have done over the years. There is only a divide because that's what you have made it. We don't dictate to anyone, we merely want people to help carry on rebuilding the club, there are no leaders, just passionate folk that want the best for the club, sure decisions which have been made may not always be the correct ones, but it's better to make decisions rather than stand still and let the grass grow under your feet.

[dazzlingdazza]

It seems that whatever is done there are always people that want to pick things to pieces anyway, that's the mentality of a lot of folk on this forum.

I wonder what your thoughts might have been had that tattoo of yours been under the 'real' crest instead of an England flag.

PS I'm not looking to pick things to pieces as you call it. I genuinely care about this issue. I am also very pissed off being told that those that no longer help out around the place apparently should have no voice.

I would love to know who it is that has told you that those that no longer help around the place apparently should have no voice ?

[andy]

Just the way it feels. I can't be bothered to trawl back through posts, but it has been said put your efforts into work parties instead of complaining about something.