Eastwood, The FA and our club

[Colin Bobble]

AVFCYELTZ don't waste your breath on folk like Colin Bobble, the fact that he has only posted 37 times since 2011 speaks volumes that HTFC is doing ok, he only posts when there is a sniff that things could be going tits up !

Said this before and I will say it again have no problem with people being critical or negative, but it should work both ways, when things are going ok those same people should hang around long enough to at least acknowledge that fact ! It's as if some people are happy when things don't go well, ChangesNightSpot and Colin Bobble are 2 for a pair.

Have loved the last few years and hopefully we will continue to progress both on and off the pitch.

Make your mind up Dazzling Dimwit. I thought you said things were going well, then being critical of me for turning up when things aren't? Which way do you want it?

I think the general consensus is things are going swimmingly and there is much to be Happy Clappy about.

[Noggin]

In order to keep this thread on-topic I have moved the thread concerning the merits or otherwise of the Premier League to viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1667

Thanks

[Laurel Lane Lamper]

League statement

http://www.evostikleague.co.uk/eastwood ... lub-18425/

[dazzlingdazza]

My post is very clear Mr Bobble, be negative, criticise fine, but when things are going well PRAISE ! Clearly something you know nothing about as all you do is drag everything down around you.

Have noticed your location is Hampshire, whether that's true or not I don't know, if it is it's a good job, that's twice you have been personal lets NOT make it a 3rd time.

Up the Yeltz !

[RaidenYeltz]

League statement

http://www.evostikleague.co.uk/eastwood ... lub-18425/

Another question re; this.

If / when any action is to be taken by the FA against us / Steve, when will this likely to be?

Presumably after the 9th March (the next meeting with Eastwood).

How long would any processes take. Weeks / Months?

I'm presuming / guessing, any sanctions would be in terms of next season, be it FA Cup suspension / deduction of points / fines.

[Noggin]

Raiden,
The are two separate matters here and they need to be considered individually in my opinion:
(1) Eastwood's position in the NPL
(2) Halesowen's position with respect to enquiries by the FA

In the case of Eastwood, the NPL Board will meet on March 9th to consider the effect of that club's resignation from the League. Based on previous similar situations the outcome will be treat the League as if Eastwood has never started the season - all points earned or lost in matches against them will be removed from the league tables. This will affect Halesowen because we lose 3 points from the match there and the match here will not take place

Any FA enquiries into HTFC will continue until they are concluded (how long is a piece of string?). As Washy pointed out they can include a variety of measures. It would be very unusual for this to include deduction of league points because this is outside the FA's jurisdiction. However, NPL could theoretically take a separate sanction against HTFC

The FA tend to punish clubs rather than individuals in situations where any misdemeanour's are found and the timing is at the discretion of the FA. But simply, it's the FA's train set. At this point there has been no finding or sanction announced.

[RaidenYeltz]

I know I'm asking a lot, and I guess this question may not be answered due its nature, but is it cast in stone that the FA will investigate. If not how likely / unlikely is it they will investigate.

[ZeeZee]

I know I'm asking a lot, and I guess this question may not be answered due its nature, but is it cast in stone that the FA will investigate. If not how likely / unlikely is it they will investigate.

Its cast in stone!

[Noggin]

on the "Clubs in Trouble" thread there is a link to the Bashley forum. For those who are not aware, our old friends at Bashley (one of the more picturesque football grounds) look to be in deep trouble at the end of season

I thought I would re-post - the numbers in B63 will not be the same, but it gives some indication for those who are not aware of the finances involved in getting a team onto the pitch for a club at our level

Id like to add this post as it may help to enlighten supporters.
It costs £50,000 a year to put Southern League football on at Bashley Road, that is before a ball is kicked and before a playing budget is agreed.
So if you agreed a competitive playing budget of £2,000 a week over 40 weeks you are looking for an annual income of £ 130,000.
The £50,000 or a grand a week can be broken down as such:

Team Coaches £15,000
Rental ground, carparks etc £ 8,000
Kit Wash £ 3,000
Players Insurances £ 4,000
Southern League fees , admin and disciplinary £ 3,000
Groundsman plus turfing, white liningets £ 5,000
Utility Bills £10,000
Match Balls, Kit, Training etc £ 2,000

So a grand a week has to be found before anyone gets paid and i havent included the refs and linesman fees that come directly out of the gate money.
At present because of the age of our support only 12% of gate receipts are for full adult prices.
The gate receipts and the profit from club functions just do not cover the running costs let alone players wages.
In my opinion dropping down levels will not help as bar the coaches and smaller league fees you still have the same outgoings which will be £700 a week on lower gates and gate receipts.
For me its simple, find a financial backer or fold.
We have all enjoyed watching the southern league but most fans havent realised just how much individual backers have funded this.
We have tried hard this season to do it without one but it has not been possible and certainly Mike C has done all he can.
I also have gone as far as i can and having been secretary for 4 of the last 5 nd a half years step aside at the end of the season.
To me its simple a financial backer or a consortium has to step forward or we have to fold.
I must stree this is my personal opinion but the finances are fact.

For the record, Bashley were on the receiving end of what I think was DJ's worst ever pun in a match report - "goalkeeper Elms remained rooted to the spot when..."

[RaidenYeltz]

Bear with me while I think out loud so to speak.

Our average attendance is 326.
Let's half that (to account for u-16's free?) to give 163 x £8 which - £1,304 gate receipts per game.

x that by the 22 league home games we have = £28,688.

£3 per person to spend on food/drink, beer, programmes, golden goal etc*

(Again going by the average gate thus far) £3 x 326 = £978, again x by 22 league games = £21,516.

£21,516 + £28,688 = £50,204.

£50,204, I'd guess is what we make a year via match day receipts. Don't know if I'm close, a million miles away, sure I'll be told either way.

Just thinking out load on the spot, sure I've missed something, but just goes to show how hard it is for non-league clubs to run!

Don't mean no harm by the above!

*I don't know whether it's fair to say it would be a fair assumption that you could add £3 at least for each person attendance to cover food, drink and golden goal tickets etc? I'm going to say it's fair, I'll even go as far as to say these figures may be under estimated!