Paulton Rovers

[Simons]

watsisnerm wrote:
"now they are becoming our players not just some lads who just take the money and go home leaving supporters that dont even know them to slag them off on the forum"


I have known several players over the 30 years I have been following the team, and was privileged to count Harry Rudge as a friend, but that does not mean that I have not had disagreements with them. Sometimes if the players showed as much passion as some of us supporters it would go a long way to improving on pitch performances


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[andy]

What is starting to worry me is we are told the budget is what comes through the gate. If we are not good enough to survive at this level (without Stourport we would be really looking over our shoulder) on 250 attendances, what will it be like if yesterdays 180 becomes the norm. Who knows, without improvement it may yet drop still further.

[OmmerUmYeltz]

The frustrating thing for me is that to do well in this league, teams and players just need to do the basic stuff well, and that is something we are not doing. Jackson has got a lot of praise recently, and rightly so because he's doing the basic stuff for a central midfield - win the ball, control it, pass it to a player who is able to take it forward. Too many players in the team, particularly defenders, are struggling to do this - poor marking, incorrect spacing across the back 4, etc. - and ultimately it is the manager's job to sort this out on the training pitch. Even when we were 1-0 up and causing them problems, I had no confidence that we could hold onto the lead because we weren't doing the simple stuff well and looking organised, teams like Paulton and Yate have less skill but win because everyone there knows their role and and what they have to do well.

Another one of the basics, of course, for every player is not to lose their temper - we nearly had another one sent off on Saturday, and he had to be substituted to prevent this, which certainly affected the team afterwards.

[lutleyyeltz]

In reply to some of the comments regarding my post immediately after Saturday’s game against Paulton, I make no apologies for summing up the game as “dire.”
That was my gut feeling – similar reaction came from others, I may add, on their way out.

Quote from ZeeZee:
Some of the people who were banging the drum during the 'stewardship' of the previous owners, ignoring the truth, despite the Trust constantly exposing the real picture now believe everyone should turn their back on the club because someone is trying to set it up to be run correctly and we have lost a few games in the process!

I own up to being one of those who fall into the category outlined above, but I have never advocated that I, or anyone else, should turn their back on the club. As for expecting Steve Lynch to “throw money at the club” I stand to be corrected, but I don’t think that anyone who has a differing point of view, to that which appears to be the majority, have called for that disastrous action.
I accept that there is a limit financially that anyone can be expected to go to and I have every respect to our owner for having done what he has thus far.
However, if my memory serves me correctly, at Steve’s “one and only “Meet the Owner Forum,” in the Yeltz Bar, where he put forward his vision and plan for the future, he made it abundantly clear that the club must be self-sustaining and any money for its development had to primarily come from the gate receipts.
So, having seen the attendance reach a very low (for us) 187 at our last home game, it doesn’t take much working out that there is going to be very little money for the future if things continue as they are. Furthermore, having installed Shaun as the manager, the ultimate responsibility for generating that income falls on his shoulders. The inability of the football team to produce performances that will increase the attendances, and by definition the funds to advance the quality of the playing staff, is down solely to he who organizes the team and the way it plays.

” We have lost a few games in the process.” They amount to a total of 13 out of 25 played!
These are hardly encouraging figures likely to increase gates.


“Let us bring someone in who will take us directly into the play offs, win loads of games with players we can't afford.”

Has anyone suggested that? I think not.


“Anyone with SENSIBLE ideas, concerns, solutions, offers of assistance etc should contact me.” (ZeeZee)

I don’t think that the idea of wishing to see an improvement in the playing performance by whatever method is anything other than SENSIBLE, considering the results as outlined in a previous paragraph.

The fact that the players mix with the fans in the Yeltz Bar after the game is all very laudable, but the best way for them to communicate with the majority is to put in some decent performances on the pitch!

What some forum members perceive to be personal attacks on the manager and the players by myself and others when we question the manager and his methods is a concept that is way out of kilter. I, like any similarly inclined contributor to the forum, care deeply about the club and put forward viewpoints that we see as valid and certainly not frivolous and ill-thought.

[watsisnerm]

`one and only meet the supporters`? steves at most matches (except when villa actually have a chance to win a match!) any one can talk to him/put views/ask questions (and a few do quite strongly!)

[lutleyyeltz]

To keep it short - I was referring to the open forum that was held soon after he took the club over to allow Steve to introduce himself, and set out his plans and also take questions from the fans!
If you read it again that is exactly what I said - a one off open forum.

[ZeeZee]

What is starting to worry me is we are told the budget is what comes through the gate. If we are not good enough to survive at this level (without Stourport we would be really looking over our shoulder) on 250 attendances, what will it be like if yesterdays 180 becomes the norm. Who knows, without improvement it may yet drop still further.

No club at our (or any other for that matter) survives entirely on gate money, the current gates just about cover the current playing budget, therefore all other costs have to be found from other sources (mostly Steve!). As off field activity increases it is planned that income from outside sources will also increase thus reducing the burden on Steve,just look around the ground at the level of advertising that has been sold and compare it to years gone by,Mike Burke (and others) has made a big stride forward and the boards are gradually being filled but there is a long way to go, as more money becomes available so the playing budget would increase, if this has the desired effect of improving results, an increase in attendances should naturally follow.

No one is under any illusion that as a football club we have to produce entertainment and more importantly positive results to attract people through the turnstiles, the diehards have to bare the brunt in the interim, its not pleasant but its what we do because we all care, no one is defending the poor discipline (which without doubt has cost us several points) but steps are being taken to stamp it out.

What we have to be aware of is, there has been enough mud thrown at our club over the past few years so when supporters make comments that the club is heading into oblivion, this is totally unhelpful and completely wide of the mark, the performances may not have been the best of late, but oblivion? we've been there, done that, got the T shirt!!

When I asked for sensible input, this does not exclude me conveying displeasure at performances, player discipline etc, I have a role within the club which includes me gathering feedback from ALL supporters, if passing on comments / observations etc regarding on field matters is what I am requested to do, that is what will happen, I am there to represent YOUR views not just my own. What I would class as unsensible input would be along the lines of ' we need a multi tier stand built at the Stourbr*dge Rd end' etc (someone will come up with it!). In addition we need ideas / offers of help etc on improving off field activity, sponsorship, increasing community activity, small ground improvements etc etc, at the end of the day it is up to the supporters what points I raise within the club.
yeltztrustrep@hotmail.co.uk

[yeltz85]

Latest match report online,

http://www.ht-fc.com/djs-match-reports- ... overs.html

Sorry for it being so late.