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The Coalville manager.

You sod. I went for that hook line and sinker.

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29 Aug 2017, 22:13

You sod. I went for that hook line and sinker.

So did I it turns out it's not the manager but the first team coach who has left Coalville!

Brilliant, it worked then!

Cruel! I actually thought there was a genuine chance he'd go after Monday. The club are taking money under false pretences with John Hill in charge because it's not a 'football club'. It's an insult to the fans by not doing something about it. Monday was the lowest point in all of my years of going to the Grove

Coalville have had a better start than the Yeltz but have still had a poor start, and have acted accordingly

Apologies if this is too general a post here, but having been to around 20 games in the John Hill era I am genuinely at a loss as to what the answer is.

It seems to me that there is a bewildering turnover of players (this must be what the 4th 'team' JH has managed at Halesowen?), caused primarily by a relative lack of £ compared with other clubs in the same division and above. I am not sure that the manager can be held responsible for this.
I think JH has found players who have gone on to play at higher levels such as Tonks and Green. I also wonder to what extent the pitch has prevented him from playing football. I have to say I have rarely seen a decent match at the Grove, in terms of 'purist football'. Ironically the only time I have been so far this season v Barwell, was as good a match as I have seen there. To be honest he has mostly played alehouse football, and to be fair, at times its been effective e.g. Christie's hold up play to create chances for Haseley, supported by Tonks' long throws.

However since that promotion winning team its gone downhill as far as I can see. Christie was never replaced, (and what a clever footballer he was for this level) and so there has never been a target man to be on the end of the usual hoofs from the back. I am not sure that, pitch improvements notwithstanding, Halesowen have the footballers or Hill has the ability to coach a more passing game.

I suppose he won't be on his own and is probably typical but as a guy he doesn't impress me overly. Seen some sexist stuff from him on Twitter and whilst I appreciate he has a day job, he doesn't exactly come across as someone with great charisma or powers of persuasion when it comes to attracting players.

Then there is all the off the field stuff, with Lynch etc. All seems a bit of a mess tbh. My conclusion is John Hill isn't the best of managers but Halesowen's travailas go a fair bit beyond who the manager is.

I think you make fair points longballman. The "ale house tactics" as you put it worked at a lower level and with the right personnel. But things have changed, we have now been in higher league for a fourth season and the personnel suited to those tactics are no longer around. The players brought in are not suitable for that approach.

It is the failure to adapt in the light of overwhelming evidence that it doesn't work that frustrates me. The warning bells should have rung out loud and clear when we went 16 games without a win at the end of the 2014-15 season. Since then we have had 2 runs of similar length without wins. To put these in context, these are the worst runs of results in the clubs history and have equalled the situation in 2010-11 when we could scarcely put out 11 players. Frankly the only reason we were not relegated last season was that there we were awful but others were worse.

I have no doubt that financial constraints and the Steve Lynch/Eastwood situation did not help but those are at least largely self inflicted wounds and arguably totally self inflicted

A couple of years ago, I was in two minds. The obvious thing to do was to blame the manager, but gave him the benefit of the doubt. Having endured the last two seasons, I have tired of the tedious football and the inability to change path. When for instance were we able to win having gone behind?

The last two posters have written thoughtful replies to this thread. They have refrained from getting personal towards the management, committee or any other contributors to this forum.

But what they have both been clear about for me, is that the current management team (JH and MC) are simply not good enough at this level, and if they remain in charge then the club will carry on its downward spiral to lower league football, lesser talented players and a lot less people in an already dwindling attendance.

Unless someone has the courage to make a decision soon I fear for the immediate future of this football club

Ditto the last 3 posts.

Just to clarify that the Coalville coach left of his own accord

"Steve Walker has stepped down as first team coach at EVO-STIK League Coalville Town.

The former Corby Town, Desborough, Oadby Town and Rothwell Town coach told officials at Owen Street on Tuesday that he was taking a break from football, citing increasing work and travel commitments for his decision to resign after three seasons working alongside manager Tommy Brookbanks and assistant manager Mark Harvey.