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[Yeltz27]

Raiden, on the one hand you say the football is dire and that most of the teams at this level aren't all that (I agree), which suggests you don't think the manager is doing that well. Then you say that you think the manager is brilliant. Which is it?

[HalesowenHarry]

Oh no, here we go again...........

[RaidenYeltz]

Raiden, on the one hand you say the football is dire and that most of the teams at this level aren't all that (I agree), which suggests you don't think the manager is doing that well. Then you say that you think the manager is brilliant. Which is it?

Firstly, I said he's a good manager and that he's done a brilliant job. Narrow play off miss, title win, mid-table finish in the last three seasons backs that up.

I appreciate the job he's doing. The football, like I've said, has been poor - especially at the start of the season (I think John would be the first to admit this), but it's improving. Which shows good management, although it still could be better, I think we've got on the right track, over the last month or so. Long may the improvements continue.

I don't think that view is difficult to understand.

[yeltz85]

Oh my! 27 has spoken again.

Cue a 57 page thread.

Aaaaaaaaannnnnnd Go!

[Yeltz27]

I will give you all a break after this post and not post again.

The argument "John will be the first to admit this" is completely irrelevant. Using my own profession for a moment, if I do a shocking concert (despite what Rob said the other night this does happen) I can be the first to admit it but if I am not capable of rectifying it then it's not much use. You all think the manager is capable and that's fine, but there have been too many performances of a poor nature. If it was a one off I'd agree with all of you

[RobYeltz]

I will give you all a break after this post and not post again.

The argument "John will be the first to admit this" is completely irrelevant. Using my own profession for a moment, if I do a shocking concert (despite what Rob said the other night this does happen) I can be the first to admit it but if I am not capable of rectifying it then it's not much use. You all think the manager is capable and that's fine, but there have been too many performances of a poor nature. If it was a one off I'd agree with all of you

What?

The music analogy I made was that in football we don't know what is going to happen as there is an opponent trying to prevent your plan or tactic from happening and therefore much of the game is played off instinct and not rehearsed. Unlike in music, where you go to a gig the music played is well practiced and rehearsed and everyone performing pretty much follows the script or set list. Whether it is any good or not depends on the performers. Clearly you missed the point or I didn't make my point clear enough.

[Yeltz27]

I will give you all a break after this post and not post again.

The argument "John will be the first to admit this" is completely irrelevant. Using my own profession for a moment, if I do a shocking concert (despite what Rob said the other night this does happen) I can be the first to admit it but if I am not capable of rectifying it then it's not much use. You all think the manager is capable and that's fine, but there have been too many performances of a poor nature. If it was a one off I'd agree with all of you

What?

The music analogy I made was that in football we don't know what is going to happen as there is an opponent trying to prevent your plan or tactic from happening and therefore much of the game is played off instinct and not rehearsed. Unlike in music, where you go to a gig the music played is well practiced and rehearsed and everyone performing pretty much follows the script or set list. Whether it is any good or not depends on the performers. Clearly you missed the point or I didn't make my point clear enough.

I understood that was what you were getting at. How about you rehearse for ages and then the acoustics are absolutely dire when you go to different places so you have to change how you play on the spot for example? That prevents you from playing how you want to. The list is endless and as i have said before, the two things are incredibly similar

[JohnC]

I like the idea of some comments on official website from the management.

Perhaps post match the comments in the programme could go on official site.

I think it is not a good idea to publish all thoughts and rationale behind formations and changes of this and players during a game thou.

The team are battling against an equivalent team with a unpredictable spherical object (ball) on an also unpredictable surface where ever we play home or away.

[Steve Glass]

I agree too but there haven't been enough quips about the music analogy and its near the end of my working day. I got a bit confused because surely our manager would have to be the conductor of the orchestra not the person that's playing an instrument? Surely there must be some puns about having had people who were obviously on the fiddle before, trumpeting opinions, bass (ing) it on rumours and choruses of disapproval? Come on lets add some more before the weekend!

[wednesburystokie]

I agree too but there haven't been enough quips about the music analogy and its near the end of my working day. I got a bit confused because surely our manager would have to be the conductor of the orchestra not the person that's playing an instrument? Surely there must be some puns about having had people who were obviously on the fiddle before, trumpeting opinions, bass (ing) it on rumours and choruses of disapproval? Come on lets add some more before the weekend!

not one to bang on, but I think people are harp (ing) on about this same subject a little too often.

John Hill has become a cymbal (sorry) for everything good at Halesowen, but I know that he is not one to blow his own trumpet.

Personally, I thing people are going around in circles, if not a circel then certainly a triangle, people have to realise he is only human and may well sod off in his allegro if we keep bach (ing) at him.

That is all